9-27-23 Assembly Public Hearing on The Child Welfare System and the Mandatory Reporting of Child Abuse or Maltreatment in New York State

ASSEMBLY STANDING COMMITTEE ON CHILDREN AND FAMILIES
ASSEMBLY SUBCOMMITTEE ON FOSTER CARE

NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING

SUBJECT: The Child Welfare System and the Mandatory Reporting of Child Abuse or
Maltreatment in New York State

PURPOSE: To examine the child welfare system and the mandatory reporting of child abuse or maltreatment, including its effectiveness and potential biases within the system, and how the system may be reformed.

Wednesday, September 27th, 2023
11:00 am
New York City
250 Broadway
19th Floor Hearing Room
New York, New York 10007

A range of questions have been raised about the child welfare system and the mandatory reporting of child abuse and maltreatment in New York State, including analysis of the racial and ethnic disparities in child protective services (CPS) investigations resulting from reports of suspected child abuse or maltreatment. CPS investigations can have profound impacts on children and families, including state intervention, family disruption, and child separation.

In 2019, according to the New York State Office of Children and Family Services (OCFS), 86.6% of children in the State's foster care system in 2022 were placed in care due to a Family Court Article 10 proceeding resulting from an investigation of child abuse or maltreatment. Further, according to OCFS data, Black children were 3.7 times more likely to enter foster care than White children, representing 52% of children in foster care in New York State. In New York City, specifically, the New York State Bar Association in 2020 found that although Black and Hispanic children comprise only 61.3% of the total city population, they constitute 87.8% of the children in CPS investigations. The New England Review of Medicine also noted in 2020 that, by the time they reach 18 years old, 53% of Black children in the United States will have been subjected to at least one CPS investigation compared to 28% of White children and 37% of all children. In light of these findings, the Committee and Subcommittee are interested in examining the child welfare system and the mandatory reporting of child abuse or maltreatment in New York State.

The Committee and Subcommittee seek to receive testimony from relevant stakeholders focused on the mandated reporting system in New York State, the short- and long-term impacts on children and families involved in the State's child welfare system, its effectiveness, and any recommendations that may be appropriate to help the State reform this system, including enhanced enforcement at the state and local levels. Additionally, the Committee and Subcommittee seek to examine the extent to which racial and ethnic disparities exist within the child welfare system in New York and its effect on minority children and families across the State.

Oral testimony will be limited to five (5) minutes. In preparing the order of witnesses, the Committee and Subcommittee will do their best to accommodate individual requests to speak at specific times in view of special circumstances, however these are not guaranteed. These requests should be made on the attached reply form or communicated to Committee staff no later than Friday, September 22nd, 2023.

Please note that this public hearing will take place in New York City, and witnesses must attend in person if they wish to make a public statement. No virtual testimony option is available for this hearing.

Ten (10) copies of witnesses' prepared testimony must be submitted at the hearing registration desk on the day of the hearing and one copy must be submitted by email to the contact listed below no later than two (2) days prior to the hearing. The Committee and Subcommittee would greatly appreciate advance receipt of prepared statements.

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In order to further publicize these hearings, please inform interested parties and organizations of the Committee's and Subcommittee's interest in hearing testimony from all sources.

In order to meet the needs of those who may have a disability, the Assembly, in accordance with its policy of non-discrimination on the basis of disability, as well as the 1990 Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), has made its facilities and services available to all individuals with disabilities. For individuals with disabilities, accommodations will be provided, upon reasonable request, to afford such individuals access and admission to Assembly facilities and activities.

Andrew Hevesi
Member of Assembly
Chair, Committee on Children and Families

Taylor R. Darling
Member of Assembly
Chair, Subcommittee on Foster Care

Wednesday
September 27, 2023

Assembly Chamber
New York State Capitol


Opening Statements and Questions

Assembly Member Andrew Hevesi

Assembly Member Sarah Clark

Assembly Member Brian Maher

Testimony and Questions

Suzanne Miles-Gustave, Esq. Acting Commissioner, New York State Office of Children and Family Services

Assembly Member Andrew Hevesi

Assembly Member Sarah Clark

Assembly Member Brian Maher

Assembly Member Brian Cunningham

Assembly Member Taylor Darling

Assembly Member Andrew Hevesi

Assembly Member Taylor Darling

Assembly Member Sarah Clark

Assembly Member Andrew Hevesi

Assembly Member Brian Maher

Assembly Member Andrew Hevesi

Jess Dannhauser, Commissioner, New York City Administration for Children’s Services

Assembly Member Andrew Hevesi

Assembly Member Taylor Darling

Assembly Member Sarah Clark

Assembly Member Brian Maher

Assembly Member Taylor Darling

Assembly Member Sarah Clark

Assembly Member Taylor Darling

Assembly Member Andrew Hevesi

PANEL A

Kyra Batte, Staff Attorney, Legal Momentum, The Women’s Legal Defense and Education Fund

Zachary Ahmad, Senior Policy Counsel, New York Civil Liberties Union

Erinma Ukoha, MD, MPH, Maternal-Fetal Medicine Fellow, Obstetrician, Columbia University Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology

Megha Sardana, Project Director, Safe Horizon

Brandon Roiger, Youth Worker, Chaplain, and Master of Social Work Student

Assembly Member Andrew Hevesi

Assembly Member Taylor Darling

Assembly Member Sarah Clark

Assembly Member Brian Maher

Assembly Member Andrew Hevesi

PANEL B

Joyce McMillan, Executive Director, Just Making a Change for Families

Kmea Jones, Parent, Just Making a Change for Families

Angelica Charles, Parent, Just Making a Change for Families

Desseray Wright, Parent/Policy Advocate, The Bronx Defenders

Heather Imperiale, Parent, Just Making a Change for Families

Assembly Member Brian Maher

Alexis Warnic, Parent, Just Making a Change for Families

Davene Roseborough, Just Making a Change for Families

Sai Malena Jimenez, Parent, Just Making a Change for Families

Latia Govan, Parent, Just Making a Change for Families

Assembly Member Andrew Hevesi

Assembly Member Sarah Clark

Lindsay Reilly, Parent, Just Making a Change for Families

Jasmine Mitchell, Parent, Just Making a Change for Families

PANEL C

Chantal O’Brien, Advocate

Jeanette Vega, Executive Director, Rise

Cassandra Gonzalez, Program Support Manager, Rise

Jasmine Wali, MSW, Child Welfare Policy Consultant

Rosalind Walker, Educator and Advocate

Marina Umanskaya, MSED, True Freedom Life Foundation, Executive Director

Pamela Adams, Community Advocate

Tanesha Grant, Executive Director, Parents Supporting Parents NY

Amara Stanislaus, Community Organizer, Home is a Human Right

Assembly Member Sarah Clark

John Robertson, LMSW Ph.D., Advocate, Columbia University School of Social Work/ Just Making a Change For Families

PANEL D

Crystal Charles, Senior Policy Analyst, Schuyler Center for Analysis and Advocacy

Dr. Sophine Charles, Associate Executive Director, Downstate, Council of Family and Child Caring Agencies

Kimberly Schertz

Assembly Member Andrew Hevesi

Assembly Member Sarah Clark

Nora McCarthy, Executive Director and Co-Founder, NYC Family Policy Project

Desseray Wright, Parent/Policy Advocate, The Bronx Defenders

Lisa Freeman, Director, Special Litigation and Law Reform Unit, Juvenile Rights Practice, The Legal Aid Society

PANEL E

Jennifer Feinberg, Litigation Supervisor for Policy and Government Affairs, Center for Family Representation

Sean Eagan, Esq., Policy Counsel, Family Defense Practice, The Bronx Defenders

Shalonda Curtis-Hackett, Community Outreach Coordinator, Neighborhood Defender Services of Harlem

Ericka Brewington, Client Advocate, Neighborhood Defender Services of Harlem

Nila Natarajan, Associate Director of Policy and Family Defense, Family Defense Practice, Brooklyn Defenders Services

Assemblymember Sarah Clark

Assemblymember Andrew Hevesi

PANEL F

Muna Heaven, Assistant Executive Director/ Legal Counsel, The New York Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children

Pat O’Brien, Executive Director, Adoptive and Foster Family Coalition of New York

Meredith Giovanelli, Policy Analyst, Children’s Rights

Asseblymember Andrew Hevesi

Amara Stanislaus, Community Organizer, Home is a Human Right

PANEL G

Hope Lyzette Newton, Program Officer, Community Partnerships, Redlich Horwitz Foundation

Lauren Wranosky, Policy and Program Associate, Pregnancy Justice

Josh Gupta-Kagan, Clinical Professor of Law, Columbia Law School Family Defense Clinic

Haiti Perez, Youth Represent

Khadijah Jones, Youth Represent

Ronald Richter, CEO, JCCA

Assemblymember Andrew Hevesi

Closing